What is a high quality Bluettoth headset?

I would really like a good audio quality Bluetooth headset for use with my
Thinkpad T60p built in Bluetooth and VoIP service. I use Skype and
Callvantage.

I have tried Motorola HS820, 850, and 670, 700, Jabra 250, Plantronics 510
and a Senheisser VMX-100.

They all seem to sound like a poor quality cell phone. A Plantronics
DSP400 wired USB headset sounds like studio quality audio on the same VoIP
service.

All of the headsets that I have are in the $30-$80 range. Is there a
higher price point where real audio quality is available? Maybe the
cellphone market just doesn't have high expectations for the Bluetooth
headset quality.

A friend has the Aliph Jawbone which seems to be good audio quality, but
the physical build quality is poor. He has exchanged a few broken ones in
the last year.

Since I will be using it on the laptop, range isn't so important, and the
physical size isn't as important as something I might want to carry in my
pocket for cellphone use. The Jabra is really bulky, but that would be
okay if it sounded good.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

dold@76.usenet.us.com wrote in news:g8afiv$tn5$2@blue.rahul.net:

> I would really like a good audio quality Bluetooth headset for use
> with my Thinkpad T60p built in Bluetooth and VoIP service. I use
> Skype and Callvantage.
>

You only mentioned one-piece phones with no stereo, but they sound the best
for music reasons. My absolute favorite pair of phones of the dozens I
own, wired or wireless is the Motorola S9 which can connect to both
handsfree and A2DP, even on separate devices simultaneously. Sound quality
if just beautiful on music. Sellphone quality is the best it can get for
such a pitifully low bit rate (8K or 11Kbps)

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> You only mentioned one-piece phones with no stereo, but they sound the best
> for music reasons. My absolute favorite pair of phones of the dozens I
> own, wired or wireless is the Motorola S9 which can connect to both

The wired Plantronics DSP400 _was_ stereo, but as I expected, the silly
design caused a wire breakage. Now it's mono. I didn't see a microphone
on the S9. Maybe I'll try the S9 before the Plantronics quits altogether.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

dold@76.usenet.us.com wrote in news:g8ffau$g1r$2@blue.rahul.net:

> I didn't see a microphone
> on the S9. Maybe I'll try the S9 before the Plantronics quits
> altogether.
>

I don't see one either, so you got my curiosity up.

I called the sellphone from Skype to get a connection I could listen to on
my PC. After getting a level from the speaker in the phone (Moto ROKR
Z6m), I booted the S9 and it took over the connection. The microphone is
located in the back of the RIGHT earphone somewhere under the chrome-
colored screen. I found it by gently blowing around the phones until my
wind noise was loudest.

This mic is VERY sensitive, rendering it fine if you're using it in a quiet
place so it can hear your voice all the way around the side of your head
INSIDE your right ear....but picks up way too much noise if you answer a
call anywhere louder than a quiet office.

There seems to be, somewhere in the audio transmit system, probably inside
the S9, some kind of AGC (Automatic Gain Control) that will not permit any
sounds, even talking very loud directly into that earpiece directly in
front of your mouth, to overmodulate the system. As you get further from
the earphone and quiet your voice, you can hear the gain come up as the
background noise increases as your voice decreases in level....keeping the
level on the phone relatively constant. So, if you are in a noisy area and
talk very loud, the AGC will turn the gain down on your loud voice,
reducing background noise.

This makes NO difference cruising down the interstate at 70 on my
motorcycle, however....(c;

Unless you buy a headset with a mic that PROPERLY comes down to the sound
hole under your nose, they'll all suck on background noise. The S9 is no
different. It does have a really nice sounding microphone wherever it's
hidden away inside that right earphone. The audio quality goes way up
switching from the Z6m's internal mic to the S9's mic when the bluetooth
connection locks.

Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> This mic is VERY sensitive, rendering it fine if you're using it in a quiet
> place so it can hear your voice all the way around the side of your head
> INSIDE your right ear....but picks up way too much noise if you answer a
> call anywhere louder than a quiet office.

I have that problem with the Sennheiser VMX100. It does have a short boom
mic, but canceling wind noise cancels my voice as well. I have to cup a
hand around the mic to be heard. In a semi-quiet environment on the PC, I
think the noise other people are hearing might be my laptop fan. They can
certainly hear a TV in the background, even if it is quite low in volume.

> Unless you buy a headset with a mic that PROPERLY comes down to the sound
> hole under your nose, they'll all suck on background noise. The S9 is no

A benefit of the wired DSP-400. A real boom mike. The Jabra has a stubby
boom, longer than most.

I'm testing a DLink DBT-120 dongle on another PC to see if the BT in the
Thinkpad is just weak. Maybe generically, or maybe I have a bad unit. The
DBT drivers are a bit of a test to load on XP, but I'll work that out. I
used it on my old laptop, but that was with an HS820, which I just think is
too cheap of a headset to use for comparison.

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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley Lake, CA, USA GPS: 38.8,-122.5

dold@76.usenet.us.com wrote in news:g8s7fn$897$3@blue.rahul.net:

> A benefit of the wired DSP-400. A real boom mike. The Jabra has a
> stubby boom, longer than most.
>
>

When a friend gave up flying because he couldn't pass the flight
physical, he handed me his beautiful aviation headset from David Clark &
Co., the one all the major airline pilots across the planet fly in.
There is a little VOX/amplifier unit that clips on your belt to automate
keying the transmitter when you need both hands to fly the plane, to the
relief of all the passengers in the back...(c;

As you can see, even though it's mono and a very old design, they still
bring a fairly premium price, even without the VOX/Amp unit I don't even
see offered any more.

http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/644

The new model, is, in fact, a stereo unit so you can listen to the MP3
player in between transmissions from Flight Controllers on the ground
and that airline pilot trying not to cut your little Cessna in half
screaming at you to DIVE...DIVE!

http://www.mypilotstore.com/MyPilotStore/sep/1028

I think the old unit, with its fancy microphone supporting hardware that
looks MUCH more military and macho than the mamby-pamby gooseneck the
new mic has as a stalk, looks much better.

I have used my unit with ham radio both at home and in the car. It's
too dangerous to drive with because it TOTALLY blanks out ALL external
sound when you put it on. The earphones have a gel-cored soft plastic
seal that completely leave your ear untouched inside them in a very
effective anechoic sound chamber lined with some kind of sound absorbing
foam. You can't even hear the wife bitching at you to take out the
garbage, screaming at the top of her lungs, if you got these babies on
right! The engine noise of a small light plane is barely perceptable,
making flying inside there nearly as dangerous from falling asleep at
the stick.

The mic on the end of the two-piece metal holder is actually two
microphones! The microphone on the side of the mic that faces away from
you is a cancelling mic to pick up the plane's noises. It is hooked up
out-of-phase with the mic element you're speaking into. Any ambient
noise picked up by both...simply cancels very well in electronics. Any
voice on the main mic only, picked up out of phase by the back mic, ends
up ENHANCED after the back mic reverses the phase again. The sound of
the voice through it sounds like it's almost, not quite but almost, in a
dead quiet room....even in a noisy Cessna!

but, alas, we do have our limits of "acceptable style" allowed through
the front door of a fancy restaurant. The other people at the table
trying to hold a conversation with you NOT listening in your little
anechoic chambers angers most of them when you don't respond, having
drifted off into dreamland listening to your favorite tracks.

David Clarks would be the answer for the very HARDCORE mobile addicts,
of course, becoming real nerd (not chick) magnets for several hundred
yards on all directions.

Chicks won't like them when they find out you aren't listening to her
tell you about her last boyfriend's queer fetishes, even the diapers.

Larry;768591 Wrote:
> dold@76.usenet.us.com wrote in news:g8s7fn$897$3@blue.rahul.net:
> -
> A benefit of the wired DSP-400. A real boom mike. The Jabra has a
> stubby boom, longer than most.
>
> -
>
> When a friend gave up flying because he couldn't pass the flight
> physical, ...


Great story..

I am a newbie & found this thread interesting.




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Cellular

Cellular <Cellular.301aef8@cellbanter.com> wrote in news:Cellular.301aef8
@cellbanter.com:

> Great story..
>
> I am a newbie & found this thread interesting.
>

What's fun is to walk into a really nice restaurant wearing these huge
airline pilot headphones talking to your imaginary friend like the coolies
do on their dorky bluetooth headsets...(c;

Welcome to Usenet's SELLular newsgroups. Wade right in and let 'er rip!

Everyone here has already been called every nasty name ever shouted in
anger. It's your turn, now!....(c;

They'll all say things to you they'd never dare in "punching range",
leaning against the bar in your local pub.

I renamed the phones a long time ago. Think about it:

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lronclawbigun