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Old 01-06-2009, 02:13 AM
Larry Lindstrom
 
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Default Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Hi Folks:

Is there a better forum to ask questions about Bluetooth?

I'm a programmer. I've written a Windows application. One of the
features of this application is a phone dialer, working off of
Window's TAPI interface. It works fine.

Of course, it only works for land lines.

Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a cell
phone?


Thanks

Larry


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Old 01-06-2009, 03:48 PM
John Henderson
 
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Larry Lindstrom wrote:

> Hi Folks:
>
> Is there a better forum to ask questions about Bluetooth?
>
> I'm a programmer. I've written a Windows application. One
> of the features of this application is a phone dialer,
> working off of Window's TAPI interface. It works fine.
>
> Of course, it only works for land lines.
>
> Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a
> cell phone?



Yes, if it's a Bluetooth phone.

I'm not a Windows programmer, so I can't tell you how to do it.
But there's plenty of software which will dial over a Bluetooth
dongle - eg, modern fax-sending applications.

John
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Old 01-06-2009, 08:57 PM
Larry Lindstrom
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

On Jan 6, 2:48*pm, John Henderson <jhenRemoveT...@talk21.com> wrote:
> Larry Lindstrom wrote:
> > Hi Folks:

>
> > * *Is there a better forum to ask questions about Bluetooth?

>
> > * *I'm a programmer. *I've written a Windows application. *One
> > * *of the features of this application is a phone dialer,
> > * *working off of Window's TAPI interface. * It works fine.

>
> > * *Of course, it only works for land lines.

>
> > * *Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a
> > * *cell phone?

>
> Yes, if it's a Bluetooth phone.
>
> I'm not a Windows programmer, so I can't tell you how to do it.
> But there's plenty of software which will dial over a Bluetooth
> dongle - eg, modern fax-sending applications.
>
> John


Thanks John:

The first step is finding out if it's doable. I'll get a dongle.
Any you particularly like, or would avoid?


Larry
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Old 01-06-2009, 09:22 PM
John Henderson
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Larry Lindstrom wrote:

> Thanks John:
>
> The first step is finding out if it's doable. I'll get a
> dongle.
> Any you particularly like, or would avoid?


I've got an old D-Link DBT-120 USB dongle which I paid a small
fortune for (many years ago). It certainly works OK, but I
don't really use at present.

Software I've written recently uses a Parani SD100 serial
(RS232) adapter, which has been more suitable for my purposes.
And I can certainly use it as a cellular phone dialer.

But now that I've got USB devices working directly by using the
Python language's PyUSB module, I'll be revisiting USB dongles
when I get time.

Maybe someone else can jump in with individual for and against
recommendations?

John
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Old 01-07-2009, 03:08 AM
selena
 
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Larry Lindstrom;428332 Wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> Is there a better forum to ask questions about Bluetooth?
>
> I'm a programmer. I've written a Windows application. One of the
> features of this application is a phone dialer, working off of
> Window's TAPI interface. It works fine.
>
> Of course, it only works for land lines.
>
> Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a cell
> phone?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Larry





Yes, if there is avilability of bluetooth in phone.




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Old 01-07-2009, 07:49 AM
Larry Lindstrom
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

On Jan 6, 8:22*pm, John Henderson <jhenRemoveT...@talk21.com> wrote:
> Larry Lindstrom wrote:
> > Thanks John:

>
> > * *The first step is finding out if it's doable. *I'll get a
> > * *dongle.
> > Any you particularly like, or would avoid?

>
> I've got an old D-Link DBT-120 USB dongle which I paid a small
> fortune for (many years ago). *It certainly works OK, but I
> don't really use at present.
>
> Software I've written recently uses a Parani SD100 serial
> (RS232) adapter, which has been more suitable for my purposes.
> And I can certainly use it as a cellular phone dialer.
>
> But now that I've got USB devices working directly by using the
> Python language's PyUSB module, I'll be revisiting USB dongles
> when I get time.
>
> Maybe someone else can jump in with individual for and against
> recommendations?
>
> John


Thanks again John and selena:

I'm very ignorant of Bluetooth.

Can you recommend a site that will get me on track with learning
what a programmer will need to know about this technology?

Larry
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Old 01-09-2009, 01:42 PM
Roger 2008
 
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"Larry Lindstrom" <larryl_turbo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fe990f08-cc15-43b6-8bef-57c80a54e44d@x16g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Folks:
>
> Is there a better forum to ask questions about Bluetooth?
>
> I'm a programmer. I've written a Windows application. One of the
> features of this application is a phone dialer, working off of
> Window's TAPI interface. It works fine.
>
> Of course, it only works for land lines.
>
> Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a cell
> phone?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Larry


I have a laptop with built in Bluetooth and you would think it could do
everything but it can't. You have to setup the phone to auto-answer and
then hang up using the phone.

Plus, when you pair a cell phone with this laptop it comes up as "Headset"
and not as "Handsfree.:

I certainly hope what you ask is doable but I haven't seen Microsoft do it
yet.

However I have seen a device by IHOME that could dial a cellphone with
bluetooth. It worked almost like a landline but with no dialtone.


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Old 01-09-2009, 11:44 PM
dold@70.usenet.us.com
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Larry Lindstrom <larryl_turbo@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a cell
> phone?


The Nokia PC Suite, free for Nokia phones offers:
"Start calls and pick up incoming calls with Nokia Communication Centre."

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Old 01-09-2009, 11:44 PM
dold@70.usenet.us.com
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Larry Lindstrom <larryl_turbo@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a cell
> phone?


The Nokia PC Suite, free for Nokia phones offers:
"Start calls and pick up incoming calls with Nokia Communication Centre."

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Old 01-10-2009, 10:05 AM
Evan Platt
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:03 -0600, "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote:

>I have a laptop with built in Bluetooth and you would think it could do
>everything but it can't. You have to setup the phone to auto-answer and
>then hang up using the phone.
>
>Plus, when you pair a cell phone with this laptop it comes up as "Headset"
>and not as "Handsfree.:
>
>I certainly hope what you ask is doable but I haven't seen Microsoft do it
>yet.
>
>However I have seen a device by IHOME that could dial a cellphone with
>bluetooth. It worked almost like a landline but with no dialtone.


It's certainly POSSIBLE. I have a Panasonic cordless phone with
Bluetooth. The handset works for both my landline and my cell phone. I
can make outgoing calls with it to my landline or cell, and receive
calls on landline or cell.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:05 AM
Evan Platt
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 14:42:03 -0600, "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote:

>I have a laptop with built in Bluetooth and you would think it could do
>everything but it can't. You have to setup the phone to auto-answer and
>then hang up using the phone.
>
>Plus, when you pair a cell phone with this laptop it comes up as "Headset"
>and not as "Handsfree.:
>
>I certainly hope what you ask is doable but I haven't seen Microsoft do it
>yet.
>
>However I have seen a device by IHOME that could dial a cellphone with
>bluetooth. It worked almost like a landline but with no dialtone.


It's certainly POSSIBLE. I have a Panasonic cordless phone with
Bluetooth. The handset works for both my landline and my cell phone. I
can make outgoing calls with it to my landline or cell, and receive
calls on landline or cell.
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:11 PM
John Henderson
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Larry Lindstrom wrote:

> Can you recommend a site that will get me on track with
> learning what a programmer will need to know about this
> technology?


Just a few to start you off:

http://www.programmersheaven.com/tags/BlueTooth/

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rudolph/...rtOfBTBook.pdf

http://www.btessentials.com/examples/examples.html

It looks like you can download BT specs from here after
registering: https://www.bluetooth.org/apps/content

John
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:11 PM
John Henderson
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Larry Lindstrom wrote:

> Can you recommend a site that will get me on track with
> learning what a programmer will need to know about this
> technology?


Just a few to start you off:

http://www.programmersheaven.com/tags/BlueTooth/

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rudolph/...rtOfBTBook.pdf

http://www.btessentials.com/examples/examples.html

It looks like you can download BT specs from here after
registering: https://www.bluetooth.org/apps/content

John
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:12 PM
John Henderson
 
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Default Re: Can PC With Bluetooth Be Used as Cell Phone Dialer?

Larry Lindstrom wrote:

> Hi Folks:
>
> Is there a better forum to ask questions about Bluetooth?
>
> I'm a programmer. I've written a Windows application. One
> of the features of this application is a phone dialer,
> working off of Window's TAPI interface. It works fine.
>
> Of course, it only works for land lines.
>
> Can a PC with a Bluetooth dongle be used as a dialer for a
> cell phone?


Having recently bought an Asus EeePC 1000H with inbuilt
Bluetooth, I've just had a go at getting it to dial via a
Samsung cellular phone.

As far as I can tell, this inbuilt Bluetooth is exactly
equivalent to havig a Bluetooth dongle fitted.

The following Python program segment dials a voice call
(trailing ";" on phone number specifies voice) to "123456789".
I'm running Fedora Linux, but Python runs on Windows too. I
did install the Python Bluetooth Module "pybluez". The phone's
Bluetooth address is 0023399FBA8A, and the pairing of the two
Bluetooth devices was done previously.

import bluetooth, socket, time, sys
sock = bluetooth.BluetoothSocket(bluetooth.RFCOMM)
sock.connect(('00:23:39:9F:BA:8A', 4))
sock.send('ATD123456789;\r')
time.sleep(8)
print sock.recv(1024, socket.MSG_DONTWAIT)

Hanging up would be a matter of ensuring that the
Bluetooth-connected phone is in command mode, and then issuing
either the generic hangup command "ATH" or the
cellular-specific "AT+CHUP".

time.sleep(1)
sock.send('+++')
time.sleep(1)
sock.send('AT+CHUP\r')

"+++" is the default escape sequence to switch a phone from data
mode to command mode. The pauses either side (called the
"guard time") allow the phone to interpret the escape sequence
correctly (rather than as a legitimate part of an ongoing data
stream to be transferred).

John
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:22 PM
dold@70.usenet.us.com
 
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Roger 2008 <rwpcs@att.net> wrote:
> I have a laptop with built in Bluetooth and you would think it could do
> everything but it can't. You have to setup the phone to auto-answer and
> then hang up using the phone.


That depends on the application interface that you are using.
My Nokia 6126 has free Nokia software that lets me call, answer, and hang
up. The Bluetooth Audio Gateway allows me to use my PC headset for audio.
There is no cell phone keypad represented on the PC. I can only call
contacts in the phone address book.

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