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Old 05-24-2004, 12:48 PM
Danny
 
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Default Bluetooth Future???

Hi,

I find Bluetooth amazing, and I am sure that it will be incorporated in many
of the new electronic things to come.

However I was wondering, what exactly will it be in?

Will I be able top buy Bluetooth headphones for my Discman?

Will I be able to buy a complete Bluetooth desktop? (monitor; printer;
speakers; webcam; mouse; keyboard)

And how long will it be until these gadgets come around, and are available
to a normal home computer user like myself?

Any ideas?

Danny


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Old 05-24-2004, 10:52 PM
Henryk =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Pl=F6tz?=
 
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Moin,

Am Mon, 24 May 2004 19:48:43 +0100 schrieb Danny:

> Will I be able top buy Bluetooth headphones for my Discman?


May be.
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> Will I be able to buy a complete Bluetooth desktop?=20
> (monitor;


No.

> printer;


Yes, already available.

> speakers;=20


Maybe, but you will need to compress the audio stream. For an example
look at http://www.bluemp3.de/ (partially in German).

> webcam;


Probably no. Current webcams tend to have problems with USB's bandwidth
(up to 12 MBit/s) and thus need compression. Bluetooth supports only up
to 723 kBit/s (per piconet).

> mouse; keyboard)


Yes, already available from Logitech, Apple and Microsoft (and probably
others).

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Old 05-25-2004, 04:27 AM
Steven Fisher
 
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In article <20040525065213.0370eab8.henryk.nospamplease@ploet zli.ch>,
Henryk Plötz <henryk.nospamplease@ploetzli.ch> wrote:

> Probably no. Current webcams tend to have problems with USB's bandwidth
> (up to 12 MBit/s) and thus need compression. Bluetooth supports only up
> to 723 kBit/s (per piconet).


Is Bluetooth as fast as it will ever be, then? Is there no reason to
except a Bluetooth 2 or such?

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Old 05-26-2004, 03:58 PM
~ Q ~
 
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Steven Fisher - typed:
> In article <20040525065213.0370eab8.henryk.nospamplease@ploet zli.ch>,
> Henryk Plötz <henryk.nospamplease@ploetzli.ch> wrote:
>
>> Probably no. Current webcams tend to have problems with USB's
>> bandwidth (up to 12 MBit/s) and thus need compression. Bluetooth
>> supports only up to 723 kBit/s (per piconet).

>
> Is Bluetooth as fast as it will ever be, then? Is there no reason to
> except a Bluetooth 2 or such?


On its way - with faster initialisation - thank God.
http://www.bluetooth.org/spec/
Look under Bluetooth 1.2. Someone else may know of more accessible info
on the actual differences. I don't think b/w will increase but channel
bonding may do it at some point in the future.
Also:
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/News_story_248.php
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/342/C2680/
http://www.electronicstalk.com/news/cam/cam161.html

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Old 05-26-2004, 04:18 PM
pzboyz
 
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~ Q ~ wrote:

> On its way - with faster initialisation - thank God.
> http://www.bluetooth.org/spec/
> Look under Bluetooth 1.2. Someone else may know of more accessible info
> on the actual differences. I don't think b/w will increase but channel
> bonding may do it at some point in the future.


Bluetooth 1.2 does not give greater bandwidth.
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Old 07-05-2004, 12:13 PM
~ Q ~
 
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pzboyz - typed:
> ~ Q ~ wrote:
>
>> On its way - with faster initialisation - thank God.
>> http://www.bluetooth.org/spec/
>> Look under Bluetooth 1.2. Someone else may know of more accessible
>> info on the actual differences. I don't think b/w will increase but
>> channel bonding may do it at some point in the future.

>
> Bluetooth 1.2 does not give greater bandwidth.


But it will soon:
http://www.csr.com/enews/hw013.html
http://www.reed-electronics.com/ednm...dustryid=22043

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Old 07-19-2004, 09:19 AM
Halam Rose
 
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1.2 enhancements are:
ESCO for better speach quality
Quicker connect - should be twice as fast
Adqaptive frequency Hopping
and Some flow control stuff in L2CAP

Cheers,
Halam Rose
BQB
7 layers UK

"~ Q ~" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> pzboyz - typed:
> > ~ Q ~ wrote:
> >
> >> On its way - with faster initialisation - thank God.
> >> http://www.bluetooth.org/spec/
> >> Look under Bluetooth 1.2. Someone else may know of more accessible
> >> info on the actual differences. I don't think b/w will increase but
> >> channel bonding may do it at some point in the future.

> >
> > Bluetooth 1.2 does not give greater bandwidth.

>
> But it will soon:
> http://www.csr.com/enews/hw013.html
> http://www.reed-electronics.com/ednm...dustryid=22043
>
> --
> The map is not the territory
>
>



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