OT: D-LINK POINTLESSNESS!

Hi.
I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio bluetooth
adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from what
I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your speakers,
or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does this
strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?

I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so if
anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the case
though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio adaptor off
downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another device or pair
of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.

I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back garden,
straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back garden, of
course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do me any favours
at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you don't need any
speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug and wire!

Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better, or any
other products? I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but haven't
seen hide nor hair of it. Thanks.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:02:53 +0100, The Crow wrote:

> Hi.
> I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
> bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio bluetooth
> adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from what
> I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your speakers,
> or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does this
> strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?

Well if the speakers where battery powered, you'd either have to keep on
recharging the things or be forever stuffing *expensive* Duracells in
them.

> I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so if
> anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the
> case though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio
> adaptor off downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another
> device or pair of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.
>
> I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back garden,
> straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back
> garden, of course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do
> me any favours at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you
> don't need any speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug
> and wire!
>
> Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better, or
> any other products?

Yes. How about a low powered stereo FM modulator/transmitter instead ?
Just plug into the computer's soundcard, and receive on any mono/stereo FM
radio/tuner you happen to have lying around.
http://www.myfmstation.com/

> I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but
> haven't seen hide nor hair of it.

Apparently they're supposed to be releasing some BT stereo headphones
sometime.


--
Michael Turner
Email (ROT13)
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"The Crow" <crappy.mesh-suck@poor.service.org> wrote in message
news:40f52ede$0$227$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> Hi.
> I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
> bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio bluetooth
> adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from what
> I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your speakers,
> or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does this
> strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?
>
> I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so if
> anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the
case
> though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio adaptor off
> downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another device or pair
> of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.
>
> I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back garden,
> straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back garden,
of
> course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do me any
favours
> at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you don't need any
> speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug and wire!
>
> Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better, or
any
> other products? I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but
haven't
> seen hide nor hair of it. Thanks.
>
>

You'll need power for the speakers. I'm happy not having the pink Monster
cable going around my lounge to my rear speakers.

Bluetake is launching a similar thing, I'm waiting for the review units.
Their headphones are great, and rechargeable (both the dongle and the
headphones, unlike another brand I saw).

--
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There have been several 900 Mhz systems for the Wireless speaker systems for
many many years. I have one from Recoton that works great, as well as JBL.
There are tons of these. (Recotons been in the 900 MHZ speakers business for
years, very reliable. Also most of these are intercjangeable)They rely on a
little 900 Mhz Transmitter and the speakers have the receiver built in. They
can be AC/DC and rechargeable.

As you your concerns, unless you have an amplifier/powered speaker in
conjunction with Bluetooth Device outside, it would be a joke quality wise
anyway.
Good Luck


"The Crow" <crappy.mesh-suck@poor.service.org> wrote in message
news:40f52ede$0$227$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> Hi.
> I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
> bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio bluetooth
> adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from what
> I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your speakers,
> or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does this
> strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?
>
> I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so if
> anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the
case
> though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio adaptor off
> downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another device or pair
> of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.
>
> I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back garden,
> straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back garden,
of
> course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do me any
favours
> at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you don't need any
> speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug and wire!
>
> Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better, or
any
> other products? I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but
haven't
> seen hide nor hair of it. Thanks.
>
>

"PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
news:8NKdnRc1M-ZkT2jd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> There have been several 900 Mhz systems for the Wireless speaker systems
for
> many many years. I have one from Recoton that works great, as well as JBL.
> There are tons of these. (Recotons been in the 900 MHZ speakers business
for
> years, very reliable. Also most of these are intercjangeable)They rely on
a
> little 900 Mhz Transmitter and the speakers have the receiver built in.
They
> can be AC/DC and rechargeable.
>
> As you your concerns, unless you have an amplifier/powered speaker in
> conjunction with Bluetooth Device outside, it would be a joke quality wise
> anyway.
> Good Luck
>
>
> "The Crow" <crappy.mesh-suck@poor.service.org> wrote in message
> news:40f52ede$0$227$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> > Hi.
> > I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
> > bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio bluetooth
> > adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from what
> > I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your
speakers,
> > or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does this
> > strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?
> >
> > I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so if
> > anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the
> case
> > though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio adaptor
off
> > downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another device or
pair
> > of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.
> >
> > I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back garden,
> > straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back
garden,
> of
> > course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do me any
> favours
> > at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you don't need any
> > speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug and wire!
> >
> > Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better, or
> any
> > other products? I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but
> haven't
> > seen hide nor hair of it. Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>

I was just thinking that some powered speakers, like Discman speakers, that
could run off batteries, would do the job outside, and then, obviously,
anywhere within the house I could have the quality of better equipment.
Quality outside is not essential, it's only for speech-based audio that I
need outdoor sound, so little speakers would do the job. Thanks.

"PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
news:8NKdnRc1M-ZkT2jd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> There have been several 900 Mhz systems for the Wireless speaker systems
for
> many many years. I have one from Recoton that works great, as well as JBL.
> There are tons of these. (Recotons been in the 900 MHZ speakers business
for
> years, very reliable. Also most of these are intercjangeable)They rely on
a
> little 900 Mhz Transmitter and the speakers have the receiver built in.
They
> can be AC/DC and rechargeable.
>
> As you your concerns, unless you have an amplifier/powered speaker in
> conjunction with Bluetooth Device outside, it would be a joke quality wise
> anyway.
> Good Luck
>
>
> "The Crow" <crappy.mesh-suck@poor.service.org> wrote in message
> news:40f52ede$0$227$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> > Hi.
> > I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
> > bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio bluetooth
> > adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from what
> > I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your
speakers,
> > or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does this
> > strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?
> >
> > I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so if
> > anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the
> case
> > though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio adaptor
off
> > downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another device or
pair
> > of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.
> >
> > I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back garden,
> > straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back
garden,
> of
> > course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do me any
> favours
> > at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you don't need any
> > speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug and wire!
> >
> > Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better, or
> any
> > other products? I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but
> haven't
> > seen hide nor hair of it. Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>
Are you talking RF gear here? Because I have some 800Mhz headphones, and
the reception is poor, very very poor.

Yes . I have the whole gambit, inside, outside weatherproof speakers and
headset. Always worked VERY WELL for me


"The Crow" <crappy.mesh-suck@poor.service.org> wrote in message
news:40f64e9e$0$4527$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
>
> "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
> news:8NKdnRc1M-ZkT2jd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > There have been several 900 Mhz systems for the Wireless speaker systems
> for
> > many many years. I have one from Recoton that works great, as well as
JBL.
> > There are tons of these. (Recotons been in the 900 MHZ speakers business
> for
> > years, very reliable. Also most of these are intercjangeable)They rely
on
> a
> > little 900 Mhz Transmitter and the speakers have the receiver built in.
> They
> > can be AC/DC and rechargeable.
> >
> > As you your concerns, unless you have an amplifier/powered speaker in
> > conjunction with Bluetooth Device outside, it would be a joke quality
wise
> > anyway.
> > Good Luck
> >
> >
> > "The Crow" <crappy.mesh-suck@poor.service.org> wrote in message
> > news:40f52ede$0$227$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net...
> > > Hi.
> > > I, like many people around here, have been thirsting after some proper
> > > bluetooth audio gear. D-link have now brought out some audio
bluetooth
> > > adaptors. Now, anyone who knows, feel free to correct me, but from
what
> > > I've seen, the receiver end, that would supply the audio to your
> speakers,
> > > or other audio device, requires to be plugged into the mains. Does
this
> > > strike anyone else as making the whole project pointless?
> > >
> > > I don't actually own the gear yet, and might not if this is true, so
if
> > > anyone knows otherwise I'd be glad to hear. It looks like that is the
> > case
> > > though, meaning that if you wanted to take your wireless audio adaptor
> off
> > > downstairs, or into the garden, and stream music to another device or
> pair
> > > of speakers, you'd have to be in range of a socket.
> > >
> > > I want the adaptor so that I can wirelessly get audio in my back
garden,
> > > straight from my computer. I don't have a plug socket in my back
> garden,
> > of
> > > course, therefore this bluetooth wireless solution doesn't do me any
> > favours
> > > at all. It's not, in effect, wireless at all. Sure, you don't need
any
> > > speaker wires, but you still need a flaming mains plug and wire!
> > >
> > > Am I way off beam here, or is this correct? Anyone know any better,
or
> > any
> > > other products? I heard that Bluetake were releasing something, but
> > haven't
> > > seen hide nor hair of it. Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> Are you talking RF gear here? Because I have some 800Mhz headphones, and
> the reception is poor, very very poor.
>
>

> > "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
> > news:8NKdnRc1M-ZkT2jd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> > > There have been several 900 Mhz systems for the Wireless speaker systems
> for
> > > many many years. I have one from Recoton that works great, as well as
> JBL.
> > > There are tons of these. (Recotons been in the 900 MHZ speakers business
> for
> > > years, very reliable. Also most of these are intercjangeable)They rely
> on
> a
> > > little 900 Mhz Transmitter and the speakers have the receiver built in.
> They
> > > can be AC/DC and rechargeable.
> > >
> > > As you your concerns, unless you have an amplifier/powered speaker in
> > > conjunction with Bluetooth Device outside, it would be a joke quality
> wise
> > > anyway.
> > > Good Luck


Only issue with 900MHz band is that is not a globally available
frequency, most European/Asia area have this frequency reserved for
GSM cellular communications. Whereas the 2.45GHz ISM band is a global
free-to-use frequency allocation throughtout Europe/Asia and the US.

Additionally the 900MHz systems are propriately. The very nice thing
about a standard like the Bluetooth AV profile gives rise to truely
consumer volumes. This then generates more diversity in product
offerings and at more affortable pricing; think of the global PC
market and how global pricing has developed that market. (Don't think
so 'World-Series', the only world named competition that excludes
every other internation nation.)

Bluetooth AV profile uses standard CODECs, as widely used in the PC
industry, and has the abilty to provide virtual Hi-Fi quality, for
example listening to a 128ks/s sounded fairly great to me. (I
understand that the sample rate can be made higher or lower too.) So I
don't think the quality is an issue either, and far from a joke.

In article <c130e35f.0407160208.7d5cb46a@posting.google.com >,
eurofella@yahoo.co.uk (Oh really!) wrote:

> (Don't think
> so 'World-Series', the only world named competition that excludes
> every other internation nation.)

I guess you're ignoring Montreal and Toronto, and players from Mexico,
Cuba, Japan, Australia, etc.