Headset to headset?

I want to use two identical (or I can obtain another) headsets to pair
together and use for remote communications.

How can I best do this?
Thanks
Nigel

"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I want to use two identical (or I can obtain another) headsets to pair
>together and use for remote communications.
>
> How can I best do this?

It'll work, but you have to speak real loud. You might even have to yell.

Since they'll both be Class III devices, the range will be about 30 feet or
so, allowing for interference. If there's a wall in the way, it gets even
worse.

This means you won't get much power to transmit, but the louder you yell,
the clearer your partner will hear you.

The good news is they automatically connect. In fact, you don't even have
to turn them on. They'll do this in standby mode.

I've tried this. It works.

Good luck!

CS

CS,

Thanks for your reply.

I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled by you
saying I will have to shout!
I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile phone,
so why should I need to when the other headset is just another Bluetooth
device.

Nigel


"Cavity Search" <nothingvalidforyou@thistime.com> wrote in message
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> "Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eQLQg.25747$0i4.5640@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>I want to use two identical (or I can obtain another) headsets to pair
>>together and use for remote communications.
>>
>> How can I best do this?
>
> It'll work, but you have to speak real loud. You might even have to yell.
>
> Since they'll both be Class III devices, the range will be about 30 feet
> or so, allowing for interference. If there's a wall in the way, it gets
> even worse.
>
> This means you won't get much power to transmit, but the louder you yell,
> the clearer your partner will hear you.
>
> The good news is they automatically connect. In fact, you don't even have
> to turn them on. They'll do this in standby mode.
>
> I've tried this. It works.
>
> Good luck!
>
> CS
>

"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> CS,
>
> Thanks for your reply.
>
> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled by
> you saying I will have to shout!
> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just another
> Bluetooth device.

With a 30 foot limit on connectivity, why not use two cans and some string.

Comes in varied decorator colors, one size fits all; works 24/7 without
battery loss.

> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled by
> you saying I will have to shout!
> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just another
> Bluetooth device.

I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.

Ah, well it might have been more helpful to a 'greenhorn' like me to at
least say it won't work!
But I'd still like to know why it won't, so I can understand more.
There is precious little free info available for end users that want to do
more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!

Nigel


"VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
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>> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled by
>> you saying I will have to shout!
>> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
>> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just another
>> Bluetooth device.
>
> I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.
>

That would have been wrong.. He said it WILL work, but only up to 30 Feet
away (or less)....any further than 30 feet apart you have to shout...


Nigel Andrews wrote:
> Ah, well it might have been more helpful to a 'greenhorn' like me to
> at least say it won't work!
> But I'd still like to know why it won't, so I can understand more.
> There is precious little free info available for end users that want
> to do more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!
>
> Nigel
>
>
> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:OMjRg.3920$vJ2.1892@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>>> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am
>>> puzzled by you saying I will have to shout!
>>> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
>>> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just
>>> another Bluetooth device.
>>
>> I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.

Well I am confused. Maybe someone is jazzing me (or perhaps you all are!).

Could someone point me to a good source that will confirm this idea of two
Buetooth headset working together (or even if needs be one Bluetooth stereo
headset and one Bluetooth stereo headphone (no mic). I would have thought it
should work and can't find a good reason why not, save that maybe it is just
blocked in the scheme tho' for no good reason.

I would appreciate your (honest) help.

Nigel


"Peter Pan" <PeterPanNOSPAM@AkamailNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> That would have been wrong.. He said it WILL work, but only up to 30 Feet
> away (or less)....any further than 30 feet apart you have to shout...
>
>
> Nigel Andrews wrote:
>> Ah, well it might have been more helpful to a 'greenhorn' like me to
>> at least say it won't work!
>> But I'd still like to know why it won't, so I can understand more.
>> There is precious little free info available for end users that want
>> to do more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>>
>> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
>> news:OMjRg.3920$vJ2.1892@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>>>> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am
>>>> puzzled by you saying I will have to shout!
>>>> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
>>>> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just
>>>> another Bluetooth device.
>>>
>>> I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.
>
>

You made me cursious, so turned on my home headset and my car headset -
nothing. Neither device is aware of the other AFAICT. Considerable effort
has gone into making the link between a BT headset and a phone (or phone to
a computer, etc.) secure. They are not like walkie-talkies where everyone
on the same channel can hear everyone else. I don't have technical training
in BT technology though, so I'm only thinking/speculating out loud. It
would be great if a knowledgeable person could clarify how it works.

Meanwhile, why not buy a cheap pair of walkie-talkies from Radio Shack (or
where-ever). For $30 you can get a two-pack with a potential 5 mile range.
Of course, they would be difficult to wear on the ear 8^)


"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Ah, well it might have been more helpful to a 'greenhorn' like me to at
> least say it won't work!
> But I'd still like to know why it won't, so I can understand more.
> There is precious little free info available for end users that want to do
> more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!
>
> Nigel
>
>
> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:OMjRg.3920$vJ2.1892@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>>> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled by
>>> you saying I will have to shout!
>>> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
>>> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just another
>>> Bluetooth device.
>>
>> I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.

VicTek,

Thanks for trying that out.
In your last sentence you have hit the reason why I am chasing the Bluetooth
line rather than picking up a cheap walkie talkie set.
The opportunity that BT provides to be able to switch one device between a
number of sources.
i.e., the headset I have with a BT USB dongle allows me to switch between
listening to stereo from the PC, to talking via the PC e.g., Skype. If I had
a Bluetooth mobile phone am sure I could switch to that aswell. I am now
looking to get a BT device that will connect to the headphone socket on a
hi-fi or TV so I can switch the BT headset to that too!
Where I am coming from is trying to provide a device for a hard of hearing
person. At the moment they have an ineffective deaf aid, but need to have
amplified sound from what ever source they want to listen to. The one BT
headset able to connect to so many sources is ideal for them and all I need
now is to provide the means for amplified voice i.e., from another BT
headset if that will work.
I am not looking for any fancy switching just the ability to cycle through
whatever devices are in range. Tho' if there is opportunity to auto switch
connections in the way a mobile phone can cause a switch, when a call comes
in, that'd be neat!

Thanks

Nigel


"VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> You made me cursious, so turned on my home headset and my car headset -
> nothing. Neither device is aware of the other AFAICT. Considerable
> effort has gone into making the link between a BT headset and a phone (or
> phone to a computer, etc.) secure. They are not like walkie-talkies where
> everyone on the same channel can hear everyone else. I don't have
> technical training in BT technology though, so I'm only
> thinking/speculating out loud. It would be great if a knowledgeable
> person could clarify how it works.
>
> Meanwhile, why not buy a cheap pair of walkie-talkies from Radio Shack (or
> where-ever). For $30 you can get a two-pack with a potential 5 mile
> range. Of course, they would be difficult to wear on the ear 8^)
>
>
> "Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:GZjRg.27862$0i4.8333@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>> Ah, well it might have been more helpful to a 'greenhorn' like me to at
>> least say it won't work!
>> But I'd still like to know why it won't, so I can understand more.
>> There is precious little free info available for end users that want to
>> do more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>>
>> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
>> news:OMjRg.3920$vJ2.1892@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>>>> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled
>>>> by you saying I will have to shout!
>>>> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
>>>> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just another
>>>> Bluetooth device.
>>>
>>> I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.
>
>

> At the moment they have an ineffective deaf aid,

Then get a better one. Seriously, there are a lot of choices out there.
Mis-using a bluetooth headset is a poor excuse for not getting the right
sort of hearing aid.

> I am not looking for any fancy switching just the ability to cycle through
> whatever devices are in range.

I can't see how that would be anything other than way too confusing.

> Tho' if there is opportunity to auto switch
> connections in the way a mobile phone can cause a switch, when a call
comes
> in, that'd be neat!

That would be a better solution. Better to have control over the source
than to cycle, or at least have the ability to halt the cycling and stay
with a selectable source.

But before you bother inventing something more complicated that it needs to
be, just get a properly fitted hearing aid instead.

> There is precious little free info available for end users that want to do
> more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!

Like there's precious little info on using a bicycle to haul construction
debris? There's no info on it because it's entirely impractical, or at the
very least well outside the design goals of the devices.

Bill,

I don't understand why you consider trying to maximise the potential for a
system as "Mis-using" it!

I would see the advantage to a deaf person of wearing one device which
could, at their choice, connect to anyone of a number of audio (inc' two
way) devices as a positive boon. Maybe you are not a hearing aid user
yourself or know of others to understand the poor state of services
available to this community?
In the U.K. (forgive me I do not know from where you hail) the state
provided devices are currently analog, slowly changing to digital. The
controls to 'tune' the device to the wearers hearing capabilities are very
basic. Even the digital aids are only slightly better, tho' the hype would
have one believe otherwise! But these devices are still only intended to
amplify the sounds the ear would normal pick-up through the air. They do
nothing special to provide for listening to telephone, TV, hi-fi, theater or
lecture. Even the auxiliary services which provide commercially available
devices to enhance the abilities of the hard of hearing are both expensive
and of single use.

The opportunity that Bluetooth could provide, and I thought would provide,
is not a solution but is a good deal better than what is currently
available.

I am not sure if you are saying the headset to headset/headphone is not
possible or is possible with some difficulties.
I am prepared to workaround difficulties if someone can advise if the basic
function will work?

Nigel

"Bill Kearney" <wkearney99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> There is precious little free info available for end users that want to
>> do
>> more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!
>
> Like there's precious little info on using a bicycle to haul construction
> debris? There's no info on it because it's entirely impractical, or at
> the
> very least well outside the design goals of the devices.
>

"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:GZjRg.27862$0i4.8333@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> Ah, well it might have been more helpful to a 'greenhorn' like me to at
> least say it won't work!
> But I'd still like to know why it won't, so I can understand more.
> There is precious little free info available for end users that want to do
> more with Bluetooth than just link to a mobile phone!

I apologize. I was having a bit of fun.

If your within 30 feet of someone, it would be kind of silly to use
expensive bluetooth headsets to communicate. Actually, the 30 foot 'range'
of Class III bluetooth devices looks good on paper, but you've probably
noticed that you'll usually hear static at just a few feet, even with
nothing in the way of the signal. Even if you could pair two bluetooth
headsets together, the range would probably be so short that you'd hear each
other talking anyway.

I seriously doubt you can get two headsets to talk to each other. You'd
have to pair them and so forth, and there doesn't appear to be any way to do
that. There might be some undocumented feature that allows you to do this,
but I think that's highly unlikely, for the above reason.

I'm afraid bluetooth headsets are really only good for phones and computers,
if you want to record your voice or whatnot. The fact is, if these things
were complex enough to do more, they'd be too complicated to be easily used
with a phone. Nobody wants a huge hassle when using these things.

As far as doing other things with bluetooth, I suggest you don't get your
hopes up. I am pretty good with computers and gadgets, and I gave myself a
three day crash course in bluetooth. It was a huge pain to do anything
other than the most simple activities.

I use bluetooth for the headset, GPS, and tethering to a computer for
wireless internet. It works great for the first two, somewhat OK for the
third.

I tried wireless stereo headphones. They worked well, but had a short
range, and I returned them until better units come out.

I've used a bluetooth mouse, and it was more hassle than useful. I've tried
to sinc my phone and PDA with bluetooth, with no luck. I ended up with a
plain wireless mouse and a cable for my phone/PDA, and life is much easier.

In my opinion, bluetooth is, at best, an immature and poorly implimented
technology. As you said, there is practically nothing for an end user to go
on when working with bluetooth. Most bluetooth devices have no real
manuals, just quick start guides written by folks who's understanding of
English isn't quite so great.

It's unfortunate. The best thing about bluetooth is that it's a standard,
and any standard is nice to have in the computer/gadget world. Instead of
worrying about the correct cables, for the correct device, from the correct
manufacturer, which can get highly exciting with some of the oddball
hardware out there, you just fire up a bluetooth link and get the job done.
With all the pairing issues, non-standard functions (mostly by cell phone
companies), and a serious lack of software and information, bluetooth is
probably going to end up as a highly specialized technology, used only for
certain types of devices such as headsets.

CS

>
>
> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:OMjRg.3920$vJ2.1892@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...
>>> I am pleased to hear that two headsets will connect, but I am puzzled by
>>> you saying I will have to shout!
>>> I wouldn't expect to shout if the headset was connecting to a mobile
>>> phone, so why should I need to when the other headset is just another
>>> Bluetooth device.
>>
>> I think saying you must shout is his way of pulling your leg.
>>
>
>

"Nigel Andrews" <nandrews2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Bill,
>
> I don't understand why you consider trying to maximise the potential for a
> system as "Mis-using" it!
>
> I would see the advantage to a deaf person of wearing one device which
> could, at their choice, connect to anyone of a number of audio (inc' two
> way) devices as a positive boon. Maybe you are not a hearing aid user
> yourself or know of others to understand the poor state of services
> available to this community?
> In the U.K. (forgive me I do not know from where you hail) the state
> provided devices are currently analog, slowly changing to digital. The
> controls to 'tune' the device to the wearers hearing capabilities are very
> basic. Even the digital aids are only slightly better, tho' the hype would
> have one believe otherwise! But these devices are still only intended to
> amplify the sounds the ear would normal pick-up through the air. They do
> nothing special to provide for listening to telephone, TV, hi-fi, theater
> or lecture. Even the auxiliary services which provide commercially
> available devices to enhance the abilities of the hard of hearing are both
> expensive and of single use.
>
> The opportunity that Bluetooth could provide, and I thought would provide,
> is not a solution but is a good deal better than what is currently
> available.
>
> I am not sure if you are saying the headset to headset/headphone is not
> possible or is possible with some difficulties.
> I am prepared to workaround difficulties if someone can advise if the
> basic function will work?

It is my understanding a properly set up computer or PDA can use a bluetooth
headset or headphones as a microphone and audio output. Eventually, I'll
know for sure, but right now I simply don't have the time or nerves to deal
with it.

Anyway, if this is the case, you may be able to pair both devices to the
same unit, or different units with a WiFi connection, and put them to use as
a high tech and very complicated walkie talkie.

You can also use a computer or PDA as a bridge of sorts between whatever
device and a bluetooth headset. Again, this appears to be a complicated
solution, and may even require some wiring skills.

I suggest you try browsing Amazon, Newegg, and other sites. At least this
way you'll see some of the possibilities.

CS